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Intolerance Much?
It's been a good while since I've properly picked apart some narrow-minded religious hoo-ha, and with the religious tide rising as of late, now feels like an appropriate time to pull out the boxing gloves.

As always, the primary source of inspiration comes from my brother.  Interestingly, while I'm quick to cite him as the subject material, he never shows me the same courtesy, even when what he's writing is BLATANTLY about me.  (In this most recent case, admittedly, it is referencing me specifically, but also including our sister in the mix.  Hooray for inclusionary tactics!)  But while Jason is the source of the "inciting incident", as it were, there are two other distinct sources for this post that need to be mentioned.  KatConfidential recently came out of the Christianity-closet, stating at the very beginning of her post a disclaimer to both myself and BillO that we probably weren't going to like what she wrote but requesting that we love her anyway.

I think I speak for both of us when I say that we do, Kat.  We love you long time.  But I go first.

Read the rest after the break!

The other source has to be Tripp because there has not been another individual in my current life who embodies such passionate faith in God and religion yet still exhibits a level of tolerance and understanding that's generally exhibited by, you know, normal people.

You can probably see where this is going.

As we've learned in the past, there is no better way to launch into these things than with Jason's own words.  And every now and then, he writes something so insanely idiotic, I simply cannot stop myself from responding.

"If they’re not a born again Christian, you shouldn’t marry them. So that means all the other religions are out, because they don’t count."

In the spirit of full-disclosure, he's talking about a "believer" marrying someone who doesn't believe.  In reality, however, he's using this as a thinly veiled guise to explain why he is incapable of having any kind of deep relationship with his siblings.

Oops!  Did I just write that?!  Well, he wrote it first.  Actually, I have to commend him at his ability to look inward and realize that the reason he doesn't have a relationship with his siblings is because of his religious beliefs.  If I could award you a gold star, I'd award you a million.

Of course, as with all religious fanatics who have been blinded by beliefs that they themselves don't truly understand, Jason doesn't believe that the onus of the above mention debilitation between siblings lies with him.  Refer to my first quote from him (to paraphrase and cut straight to the point):

"If they're not a born again Christian, [...] they don't count."

You have five people in the room.  By Jason's standards, the one "born again Christian" in the room is--for the sake of a simplified example--a real person.  The other four people in the room, by virtue of not being a born again Christian, don't actually exist.  They're unreal.  Those four people are fake.  Perhaps they're just cardboard cut-outs, but even cardboard would have more substance and history and personality than nothing at all.  And cardboard CANNOT be a born again christian, so I think that theory is a wash, too.  Maybe they're just figments of our imaginations, these four other people in the room.  Whatever the case, by Jason's logic--both written and demonstrated in real life--they do not exist and are impossible to have real relationships with.

This is my problem with religious extremists.  It's been theorized that such fanaticism is the mark of a wet-behind-ears inductee to the Christian Faith.  In the absence of anything else happening in their life, they dive haphazardly into everything that is bad about religion, without thought as to what kind of negative impact it might have on their life.  It's a state of mind, and not something that should be linked to any specific religion.  If Jason was raised in an Orthodox Jewish household (which he easily could've been) he'd be hardcore Jew-boy right now and claiming that all Christians are going to burn in hell for false idolatry. (The Old Testament is the Jewish Torah ... the 10 Commandments are laid out in Exodus, Chapter 20.  The First Commandment says: "I am the Lord you God ... you shall have no other gods before me ... you shall not make for yourself an idol ... you shall not make wrongful use of the name of your God".  Since the crucifix is popular imagery in Christianity and Christians widely believe Jesus to be the Son of God and, well, the Jews DON'T ... this is a very clear violation of the First Commandment.  So much for Christianity, right??)

Let's reiterate the point: extremism is a state of mind.  It can be applied to any religion to achieve the same results.  Intolerance that ranges from racial to social and boils all the way down to brothers and sisters.  Exclusionary behavior that does nothing to overcome the intolerance that inspires it.

It's not the people around the extremists who are being exclusionary.  Well, maybe I should clarify lest I myself get crucified.

I have little tolerance for those who are blindsided by their religion, this much is true.  But I have never (and will never) write someone off or condemn them to hell or ever feel I must pray for them because they DON'T believe what I believe.

Jason does.

So much so that it handicaps his own relationships with the people closest to him.  And it's not because we can't deal with him ... by is OWN admission, it's because HE can't deal with us.

I cited Kat and Tripp at the beginning of this post because there we have shining examples of people who don't get blindsided by their religion.  I'll continue to name names, though.  Everyone I know, whether committed to a religion or not, has never let their beliefs handicap their relationships (or their ability to HAVE relationships).  Obsquatch.  Lupine.  Middlebrook.  BigMackZach.  Spazzy.  Heather-Maria.  IBRAHIM!  Em.  Heidi.  Luis.  The list can continue endlessly and will continue endlessly.

Sadly, there is no comedy here.  There is no witty ending.  There's just a sad and unfortunate state of affairs.  I almost wish that I did subscribe to Christianity because I surprisingly want to close this post by saying:

"I'll pray for you, Jason."
 


Comments

08/08/2009 7:32am

It's like an invisible force, it pulls me to your blog every time you mention me, or mention religion.. lol.

I will NOT get roped in. grr... =\

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08/08/2009 11:56am

Actually Jordan, the fanatics are really religious, while the Tripps and Kats are actually spiritual... in my book anyway. They don't obsess over rules and have a firm grip of reality. Their perception of reality is supplemented by sections of the Bible, and not vice versa. It is a bit of a mystery to me as to why these religious people tend to associate themselves with this particular kind of negative polarization of their respective religious texts. The intolerance is so broad that it appears incorrect (to me) to state that a person actually had ALL these intolerances prior to his or her religious affiliation. I hate to say it, but all these pieces of information point at what most would label as inherent stupidity in the fanatic. I would be more elaborate in citing extreme intellectual laziness and an (as of yet unacquired, or thoroughly suppressed ) inability to think independently, critically and objectively... all of which arise from merely being an individual accountable to no one except him or herself. There's very little to explain such a high level of brainless slavery. I know from my own family (not immediate fortunately, though the immediate, like many other families, have their own set of issues) , that their fanaticism was triggered by a certain amount of self contempt during a particular phase in their life. Maybe when people reach that stage, and have very low self esteem, self worth and individual drive, they tend to collect in the most negative herd that they can find. The herd of positive people are actually nothing more than an ensemble of individuals, all with their own identity; while this other herd is filled with complacent, defeated, narrow minded people with a false sense of self worth inconsistent with reality (as you mentioned). They're truly sheep I guess. I don't think it matters much to dwell on these people past a certain point. The solution will be in my opinion, to give them a sense of self worth... but to do this will require making them give up their newly established fear of being separated from their "faith" (which really is quite like making a lone sheep do it's own thing. The fear is about having to think, having to try... having to dream! Oh my god! The horrors of being an individual!). Their faith when put to the test, of course, is largely shown to be a pile of crap... and thus calling them fanatics is somewhat a misnomer. Suicide bombers... now THERE are some fanatics, though I don't think the factors are exclusively religious in their case. Much more to do with BAD socioeconomic crap in their hell-hole part of the world, which is vastly different than what their Bible thumping, American counterparts have to face.
Bah, no more. By the way Krumbine, I'm effectively an Atheist, but yes... in the broad sense of the point you were trying to make, I do have relationships with people who hold opposite views, beliefs,etc as well as act in ways I might find inconceivable. I have no reason to be intolerant, for it is their life. It's really that simple.

P.S: I need to find out the day you were born. Why? My birthday gift to you is to give your brother the biggest and most insane comment avalanche of his blogging and non blogging life :D

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08/13/2009 11:44am

I never allow my faith in the Flying Spaghetti Monster to stand in the way of my judgement of others. Not even when said others, mostly those faithful to another omnipotent being, are trying to convince me that pirates aren't divine beings but instead rogues and thieves....and that they do not distribute candy to young children.

I know what I know and whilst I'm in Heaven with my beer volcanoes and strippers they'll be in Hell with their STALE beer volcanoes and INFECTED strippers.

...

But in all seriousness I have, more or less, decided that if there is a "divine creator" and s/he's as "great" and "almighty" as they say s/he is than they'll be bright enough to understand that I really don't want to be damned to an eternity of torment for getting their freaking name wrong.

Honestly.

And so whilst I respect those with faith, those with faith AND common sense I should say, I don't think I'll be walking down that road any time soon.

I'm more than happy to be another pain-in-the-Christian-ass Pastafarian.

:D

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