Response.

Response. 03/14/2009

I was going to just post this as a comment in response to Heather and Walker in my last post about twitter, but I thought I'd just post it here. Oh: and WOW, it's really impressive how quickly people turn to angry criticism about such mundane activities. Also: how awesome is that picture? Yep, that's a Kindle and those are the immortal words penned by DNA.

@Heather: I'm fully aware that we all exist outside the internet. But I'm hardly going to pack my shit up and come visit you for a weekend. You don't email like you used to and rarely do you update your blog. There's nothing wrong with any of these things, but I bring them up to raise the following points:

In addition to "quitting youtube", you've removed yourself from the online contributing/interacting community. Obviously, you're welcome to criticize however and whenever you'd like, but speaking as someone who is constantly contributing and trying to interact with the online community that surrounds me, I view twitter as an extra tool to get that done. Because I don't always post a video with the thought I want to share or write a blog here that has an update on a project. I view twitter as the spackle that can fill in the cracks.

@Walker: stop trying to make twitter something more than what it is OR assuming I'm leaning on it for something more than it is. It's a microblogging site and it's not the first one of used (about a year ago I messed around with Tumblr, twitter's main competitor).

I'm impressed on a daily basis with the people who have found this website and continue to visit it. But, I know that they come from youtube and for a long time to come, this site will always be secondary to my youtube channel. In much the same way, twitter is secondary to the youtube channel because all the people there have found me through youtube.

Both of you are responding to my desire to utilize twitter interact and grow friendships with the people I have met online. My caveat: these people are though youtube, are worldwide in their locations, and still, as always, EVERYTHING revolves around creative inspiration.

I would hope you both can understand and appreciate that, but it's okay if you don't.

Comments

Heather Maria Lueck

03/14/2009 12:24pm

I have not removed myself from anything krumbine. Perhaps you have removed me from what you believe to be the contributing community... but that doesn’t make me irrelevant. In fact I’d even say it makes you arrogant. I post rarely, I don’t make videos but I did for a long time and I will again. I meet amazing people. People I don’t need to twitter everyday to feel connected to and continue to bury myself in the “online community” in little ways that may not be deemed important by your standards - but they matter to me. I’m surprised to see you so quick to criticize my level of interaction and glorify your own. It’s not a competition or a numbers game, it’s what you would call “creative inspiration” and you’re trivializing it.

I choose to inspire in ways that stay true to my morals, where the supreme idiots of the world don’t linger with too much time on their hands. That doesn’t make me any better or any worse then you. It makes us different.

Twitter away krumbine. I never intended to make it seem like I didn’t want you to be a part of it.

I understand why you like it.

But understand that I just don’t.

Krumbine

03/14/2009 1:10pm

Heather, you did remove yourself. Maybe it was just in respect to me, but you removed yourself. When you stop responding to emails, that's removing yourself. I understand that you previously put yourself in a position where everyone and anyone seemed to be judging you, but that's no reason to be permanently defensive about everything you read online--and if you go back and read your comment, you'll see what I'm talking about.

At no time did I criticize your "level of interaction". At no time do I make any kind of assumption about your social life--only that from what I've seen, you've "removed" yourself the online world I was used to seeing you a part of. And that's not criticism as much as it's an observation. Moreover, time and again I've told you that I understand your motives and certainly don't hold it against you.

Never did I claim that a person's use or refusal to use twitter (or anything else, for that matter) makes them better or worse than me. Never did I claim that someone's involvement in a creative community makes them better or worse.

I don't know where you're seeing arrogance in all of this and frankly it doesn't matter. If you don't want to use twitter or youtube or email or whatever, that's fine ... no one is forcing you to nor is anyone criticizing you if you don't. What's conflicting is when you try and judge me for doing these things ... which is what got this whole ball of wax rolling down this proverbial cyber hill of shit.

Heather Maria Lueck

03/14/2009 1:38pm

It is criticism.

Because it is the idea of an online community as YOU define it.

I never judged you or your decision to start twitter, I just wrote my opinion on the subject and happened to disagree with you.

The funniest thing about this whole discussion so far... is that all these comments... are me fighting to stay a part of your community, a community I have apparently removed myself from without even realizing it.

Too little, too late maybe.

Don't talk down to me krumbine. I don't need to re-read comments that I wrote 30mins ago to understand that I'm defensive.

The arrogance comes from this line "but speaking as someone who is constantly contributing and trying to interact with the online community that surrounds me."

I do the exact same thing... in a way that may not fit with your notion of youtube, blog tv and stupid twitter that started all this... but it's real, and i truly care about and appreciate so many of the people I've met online.

So yes krumbine, I am defensive. Very defensive.

Maybe now you know why.